HORNET INDUSTRIES LTD. GUELPH, ONTARIO, CANADA |
Model: HJ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MANUFACTURED BY: HORNET INDUSTRIES LTD. GUELPH, ONTARIO, CANADA YEAR INTRODUCED: HJ" 1946 to "D" 1948 .... 1950 ENGINE DISPLACEMENT: 7.95 cu. in. (130cc) NUMBER OF CYLINDERS: 1 CYLINDER BORE: 57 mm 2.250 in. PISTON STROKE: 50.8mm 2.0 in. CYLINDER TYPE: Cast iron INTAKE METHOD: Reed valves (2) OPERATOR CONFIGURATION: One Man and Two Man operation HANDLEBAR SYSTEM: Rigid CLUTCH: Dry plate manually operated DRIVE TYPE: Bevel gear transmission CONSTRUCTION: Sand cast magnesium MAGNETO TYPE: Eisemann AM-1, chain driven from crankshaft CARBURETOR: Tillotson AJ series float type AIR FILTER SYSTEM: Vertical filter housing with chore girl element Circular housing with chore girl element STARTER TYPE: Rope OIL PUMP: Manual OPERATING RPM: IGNITION TIMING: 0.28125 in before TDC BREAKER POINT SETTING: .018 in to .020 in. FLYWHEEL/COIL AIR GAP: fixed SPARK PLUG TYPE: Champion J6 SPARK PLUG GAP: .025 in. CRANKSHAFT MAIN BEARINGS: Ball FUEL TANK CAPACITY: 40 oz. (1.18 litres) FUEL OIL RATIO: 10:1 RECOMMENDED FUEL OCTANE: Regular, 70 to 80 octane MIX OIL SPECIFICATION: SAE 50 CHAIN PITCH: 5/8 in., .625 in., (15.8mm) CHAIN TYPE: Hornet "Scratcher" SHORTEST GUIDE BAR SUPPLIED: 24 in. (61cm) LONGEST GUIDE BAR SUPPLIED: 60 in. (152cm) COLOUR SCHEME: Hornet Yellow or Grey enamel |
The early Hornet HJ 1946 and D.J. Smith |
There were 4 variations in air filters and no raised Hornet lettering on the early fuel tank |
Hornet the Model " D" 1948 the model D replaced the HJ in 1948 note the different rear handle assy. |
Revised rear frame and mounts and different airfilter and housing |
Two different Magnetos were fitted to the Hornet model D Fairbanks Morse F.M.J. E.1 or Eisemann shown on the right side saw below |
Hornet HJ of 1946 fitted with an Eisemann magneto |
Chain Part Number: STANDARD Manufactured By: HORNET INDUSTRIES LTD. Cutter Style: SCRATCHER Manufacturer Designation: 1404 Cutter Formed By: STAMPING Year Introduced: 1948 Year Discontinued: Intended Use: PROFESSIONAL Pitch: 9/16" Gauge: .058" |
#2963 |
#2963 |
#2963 |
#2963 |
# 3788 |
# 3788 |
They were produced in Guelph, Ontario, Canada by Don J Smith, the same man who imported
the first Stihl's into Vancouver, Canada from the mid to late nineteen thirties. He went on the clone that saw and then sold out to Reed Prentice who sold out to local business men who formed IEL. In the mean time DJ Smith moved to Guelph, Ontario and in 1946 started producing the model HJ (his son's initials) two man Hornet. In 1948 he updated it to the model D two man Hornet. In 1950 he sold out to Mall and so the Mall name appears on later models. |
# 9092 |
# 9092 |
List to date. Serial # .. Model ........ Owner .............. Features 1422A ..... HJ ....... Mike & Dan ..... Has casting numbers in 500 series. Presently has the wrong shroud , air cleaner & flywheel. Handle bars & the guard around magneto are questionable. 1834 ..... HJ ......... Bill G .......... 2868 ..... HJ ......... Mike & Dan ...... Casting numbers in 1000 series, Type 1 air cleaner 2963 ....... HJ ..... Wayne Sutton ..... Same as 2868 3788 ....... HJ ...... Marshall .......... 2nd style HJ, with type 2 air cleaner. 3843 ....... HJ ....... Bill G. ........... Same as 3788, note red Hornet tag 5362 ....... HJ ....... Bob Cornwell same as 3788 and 3843 red hornet tag. 6034 ........ D ...... Tom & Sons ...... 1st style D, with type 1 air cleaner 7029 ....... D ....... Marshall .......... Same as 6034 8048 ....... D ....... Gustav ............ Same as 6034 8747 ....... D ....... Private .......... 2nd style D, with type 2 air cleaner 9052 ....... D ....... Jim L ............ Same as 8747 9092 ....... D ....... Marshall ......... Same as 8747 10229 ..... D ....... Tom & Sons ...... Same as 8747, has Mall tag |
I finally have my grandfathers HJ. it is serial # 1158A. the flywheel is the "built up" type and it would have had the earliest type aircleaner,
vertical rectangular type. Also I now can add another level to the ongoing
Hornet puzzle Aparently, the earliest HJ models had three redesigns of the connecting rod. For clarity here I'll define "early" to mean HJ's with the built up flywheel and the above mentioned aircleaner. I have three of these saws now; and, all are apart. The earliest, serial #1158A has a connecting rod with a bronze bushing in the small end, an oil hole and roller big end bearing Saw number #1962 is also "early" type, and has a cartridge type crowded roller small end, no oil hole, and roller big end. Saw number #1968 "early" type, cartridge type crowded roller small end with a oil hole, and roller big end. So it seems that there were variations in the internal parts as well. |
Hornet not cast in housing, but has a tag on the gearbox- manual clutch, 36" two man bar, rectangular air filter. Numbers cast on fan housing-B-1003 and stamped at base of top housing-#3098. |
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Page updated 12th Jan 2011 |
Serial No 5362 |
Engine Serial No 5362 Fuel tank no 5362 Gearbox no 5378 |
Notice this fuel tank has tabs to rest the indexing lever on as a anti rattle device and the round style of airfilter |
Note the saw on the left has the two Aluminium tabs to locate the indexing lever
Notice the airfilter assy |
Hornet "D" has exhaust mounted faceing forward as per #9092 |
# 5362 has exhaust facing to the left directly above the magneto |
There appears to be 3 different fuel/oil tanks fitted to the HJ. 1st type smooth without the cast in Hornet logo has Hornet logo rivited onto magneto guard. 2nd type smooth with raised cast Hornet Logo 3rd type has casting different on sides and has nameplate tag on tank and or has Hornet logo Hornet image rivited to side of tank. |
Two types of flywheels are noticed fitted one that is entirely within the fan housing
and the other protrudes outside the fan housing |
Pic to left shows the location of the engine serial number theres also the same number
on the gearbox and fuel tank which should indicate a matched number set no
doubt in service the gearbox and fuel tank could have been swapped out as needed. |
Notice the fuel caps on the early Hornets are cocked off centre whereas the 2nd type
fuel cap sits flat |
3843 |
The saw above and too its right has an easier set of rear handles to remove than
the steel strap braced ones and i feel the two extra hand grips are an owner add
on. The fuel tank of the saw above seems to be a later model tank fitted to an earlier power head. |
HJ |
HJ |
HJ |
HJ |
HJ |
In 1950 DJ Smith sold out to Mall and so the Mall name appears on later models. |
Notice the square exhaust outlet on this "D" model |
